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Post by mikuni on Aug 10, 2007 15:55:48 GMT 12
Oh that first link has a space in it. Need to copy and paste the whole thing on my browser.
Its out of it, before I read that I was putting a post in the word up thread about possibly fitting 13x10's on my car lol
Those are awesome. I reckon 13x10 is deffinately doable. Another 1/2-1inch outwards and you could easily go 1-1 1/2 inches further inside with my wheels.
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Post by zep on Aug 10, 2007 19:02:09 GMT 12
haha that would be sooo crazy! tyres would be ridiculously expensive tho!
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Post by mikuni on Aug 10, 2007 20:06:21 GMT 12
175/50/13s will probably fit /nah ;D
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Post by gordo on Aug 10, 2007 22:38:45 GMT 12
175/50/13s will probably fit /nah ;D might be stretching it a bit ... However, you've a few options, such as www.yokohamatire.com/TireSizes.asp?TireID=2 215/50-13 Michelin make a road legal tarmac rally tyre, the TB15, in 225/45 R13 Quite a few other brands that could do a trye for a 10x13 rim, safely. What I expect may be more of a problem is clearance on lock of the front tyres. They will usually hit close to the footwell and the front valence lip with the outer edge of the tyre.
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Post by mikuni on Aug 11, 2007 13:12:07 GMT 12
Yea, I wouldn't put anything smaller than around 215 on a 10. And even then you would need to trial it abit. Those tyres look great too. Thing about semi-race tyres though is that they have a very solid side wall so stretching them is very difficult. You pretty much have to get something that fits right. What I expect may be more of a problem is clearance on lock of the front tyres. They will usually hit close to the footwell and the front valence lip with the outer edge of the tyre. Thats a really good point actually. I have noticed on alot of the wide bodied berg cup cars that the are modified in the area forward of the front wheels in that there is nothing there behind the kit. I'm guessing that they add abit of castor to get it clear of the rear? Although that may make it a little twitchy. In reality you probably wouldn't need that much lock anyway and that is also something that could be checked while doing the trial fitting. If it really doesn't want to work just use 8's on the front and 10's on the back.
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Post by gordo on Aug 11, 2007 16:00:08 GMT 12
Yea, I wouldn't put anything smaller than around 215 on a 10. And even then you would need to trial it abit. Those tyres look great too. Thing about semi-race tyres though is that they have a very solid side wall so stretching them is very difficult. You pretty much have to get something that fits right. Thats a really good point actually. I have noticed on alot of the wide bodied berg cup cars that the are modified in the area forward of the front wheels in that there is nothing there behind the kit. I'm guessing that they add abit of castor to get it clear of the rear? Although that may make it a little twitchy. In reality you probably wouldn't need that much lock anyway and that is also something that could be checked while doing the trial fitting. If it really doesn't want to work just use 8's on the front and 10's on the back. If you can get hold of the Magard Chevette manual - it's available online on one of the links I posted in "useful links" or summat, you'll see what they did for clearance on lock. The later 'long wheelbase" HSRs had the crossmember and suspension moved an inch further forward, partly for tyre clearance and partly for a bit better weight distribution with the heavy slant 4 engine. you could, of course, restrict the lock but that is a real pain if you have to make any tight turns - handbrake?
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Post by 77vette on Aug 27, 2007 12:35:32 GMT 12
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Post by mikuni on Aug 27, 2007 14:13:12 GMT 12
The less offset the better. Means more dish and close to the guard so they won't look to gay. I wouldn't go any more than ET35. My Vectra steels are ET49 and they are boarder line but they are also narrow as, so any wider and they wouldn't fit. I don't think 6"+ wheels would fit in ET40+
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Post by gordo on Aug 27, 2007 20:35:49 GMT 12
Just had a look at the BMW 14x6 alloys on mine - if I've the correct number, they've a 15mm offset. There is another number, o35BMW, which may suggest a 35mm offset. These fit with a 3mm spacer to clear the front dampers on full droop using 195/60 tyres. Thinking on it, I think the 35 may be the correct figure and, if so, I think you may be looking at something in the 28-30mm range. I could well be getting screwed up with the offsets - I personally much prefer to use the, US , backspacing figures as it is a nice and simple standard without all the figuring things out.
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Post by 77vette on Aug 27, 2007 22:16:17 GMT 12
yeh backspacing makes more sense to me also but when you buy wheels they come in offsets i didnt really think any of those wheels would fit very well. Some of them, oz in particular, are very light wheels and would be ideal other than the offset. I think the volk wheels would be light also. My friend had the same wheels in 16x8 and 16x9 on his gts-t. they were pretty light if i remember. Forged i think. I think i might investigate geting some new 15x8 rewinds in silver with the corect offset...whatever that is i wish people on trademe sold 4x100 wheels for RWD cars!
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Post by cul8r on Aug 27, 2007 22:37:52 GMT 12
Oh hey, anyone know if any new BMW's come with 4x100 steels ? Mate was given some steel 5 stud Bmw wheels and I swear they are the lightest rims I've ever lifted, and they looked pretty cool too - a cross between Nascar D windows & pursuit style ones..
Cheers,Chris
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Post by 77vette on Aug 27, 2007 22:46:49 GMT 12
id say new bmws come with 5stud. Even the small models are pretty big now. All the fords and mazdas have gone 5 stud i think...except maybe fiesta and mazda2. 4 studs are a dying breed
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Post by mikuni on Aug 28, 2007 7:26:38 GMT 12
I think the smallest BMW's stayed at 4x100 like compacts and 316's or something. Other than that try volkwagen. They are still 4x100 on some of the larger ones. Not sure about Audi. We found really good site one time when we were looking for 15" steels.
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Post by gordo on Aug 28, 2007 20:28:26 GMT 12
Oh hey, anyone know if any new BMW's come with 4x100 steels ? Mate was given some steel 5 stud Bmw wheels and I swear they are the lightest rims I've ever lifted, and they looked pretty cool too - a cross between Nascar D windows & pursuit style ones.. Cheers,Chris All the newer BMWs are 5 stud - you want the earlier 3 series - the boxier styled one. I don't know how heavy the steel wheels are (14x5.5, IIRC) but the bottletop 14x6 with a 185/60 tyre was 1kg a corner lighter that the stock Chevette steel rim with a 165 tyre.
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Post by zep on Sept 2, 2007 1:30:47 GMT 12
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