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Post by friendlyfire on Apr 18, 2009 18:36:29 GMT 12
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Post by cul8r on Apr 18, 2009 19:07:54 GMT 12
Im in love lol, no seriously , love viva's & magnums..
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Post by friendlyfire on Apr 18, 2009 20:06:24 GMT 12
Im in love lol, no seriously , love viva's & magnums.. yeah they're pretty mint, almost feel sad knowing what there going to do to it lol |
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Post by gordo on Apr 18, 2009 21:16:01 GMT 12
It's running a CF engine, as IIRC the cars used CD Strombergs.
The distributors on those were a PIG!!!!!!!!!, the shafts and other components used to wear quite badly and the timing was therefor all over the place. Have a good look at the point and the gap as you'll probably find it differs by 5 or 10 though on the lobs as it turns.
Check you've power to the coil, power at the points (open, of course and the points aren't shorting out. There used to be a pigtail (how appropriate a term) from the base plate to the housing - easy enough to make one up if required but should work without one. They used a ballast type coil, so if you decide to hot wire it, bear that in mind as you may need a convention 12V coil or a balast to avoid overheating it.
Should be entertaining - the short wheelbase CFs were a delight to drive sideways and that should be about as light in the rear end.
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Post by friendlyfire on Apr 18, 2009 21:27:35 GMT 12
cheers for the info gordo will have a play with it tomorrow is there much difference in the 1800 and the 2.3? is it just the stroke, bore size? are most things transferable between them? mainly when they blow the motor i was thinking of taking one of the valve spring sleeves off it because one of the ones on my head are cracked =(
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Post by gordo on Apr 18, 2009 22:03:38 GMT 12
There were two pairs of engines, the 1600/2000 and the 1800/2300,
IF(!)IRC, the first and the second pairs had different bores and the other engine size variation was down to stroke.
I would expect the rods to be the same and the difference taken up with different piston heights but I really can't remember.
It should be easy to find out in the car manual(s), try asking Bulldog as I know he has a manual and is more up to date with these things.
There were also different distributors - the worst were the early AC Delco ones for wear and the late CF engines had electronic ignition.
Best option would probably be to go to a distributorless setup, like Bulldog's friend, Tony, has on his twin cam.
[edit] Damnit, misread that as it already having a 2.3 repower rather than the 1800. Most comments still stand except may not be a 2.3 - should be on the right side of the block.
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Post by bulldog on Apr 18, 2009 23:43:21 GMT 12
yep i've got all the manuals. will check and get back to you. From memory the only difference was stroke although the blocks had strengthening webs on later 2300s. Just did some reading on DSG forums and all 1600 through 2300 have the same top end just different valve lengths and head gaskes depending on what cam you were running. Correct me if I'm wrong Gordo.
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Post by mikuni on Apr 19, 2009 11:10:56 GMT 12
So th 1800's have all the weight of the 2300's but without the power?
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Post by friendlyfire on Apr 19, 2009 15:50:03 GMT 12
we got the thing going!, after few hours of pissing around turned out the points on the distrbutor were stuffed so cleaned them up and redone the gap, turned out someone had set the timing all different to what they say in the book... so after we finally got it going it was mint! burns alot of oil tho lol but damn its mean, spins both tyres on concreate aswell!
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Post by bulldog on Apr 19, 2009 19:36:12 GMT 12
what you should do my freind is keep all the running gear. the diff, brakes, axles the lot is beefier than standard 1300 viva
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Post by friendlyfire on Apr 19, 2009 19:56:53 GMT 12
what you should do my freind is keep all the running gear. the diff, brakes, axles the lot is beefier than standard 1300 viva you mean keep them after we have finished with the car? also had some real fun with the car, had 5 of us in the car, were burning up the paddock, then BANG, jumped out of the car and saw a wheel sitting in the grass and only 3 on the car! lol!, the holes in the rim which the studs go through had riped out because someone before had cut the center hole bigger and weakened it and only had 3 wheel nuts on it lol, so its sitting in the paddock untill 2mrrw, to dark to fix it now, great fun. |
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Post by gordo on Apr 19, 2009 23:15:09 GMT 12
yep i've got all the manuals. will check and get back to you. From memory the only difference was stroke although the blocks had strengthening webs on later 2300s. Just did some reading on DSG forums and all 1600 through 2300 have the same top end just different valve lengths and head gaskes depending on what cam you were running. Correct me if I'm wrong Gordo. Sounds about right - there was a special 2300 cam that had different valves or something but it was very rare - not something that's likely to turn up in NZ |
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Post by gordo on Apr 19, 2009 23:16:22 GMT 12
what you should do my freind is keep all the running gear. the diff, brakes, axles the lot is beefier than standard 1300 viva you mean keep them after we have finished with the car? also had some real fun with the car, had 5 of us in the car, were burning up the paddock, then BANG, jumped out of the car and saw a wheel sitting in the grass and only 3 on the car! lol!, the holes in the rim which the studs go through had riped out because someone before had cut the center hole bigger and weakened it and only had 3 wheel nuts on it lol, so its sitting in the paddock untill 2mrrw, to dark to fix it now, great fun. The other thing to watch out for is the early HCs had a 4" PCD for the wheels and the later ones were 100mm - like the Chevettes. |
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Post by coggers on May 3, 2009 7:50:08 GMT 12
Hey cool car ( I've got a Firenza.. ;D )
As has been said , you've got the stronger OHC axle which is always a good start . Dunno much about the slant four engines though if I'm honest , other than parts for them still fetching strong money on ebay over here.. I know the 2.3 still seems to carry a certain mystical charm within certain UK Vauxhall circles ...
A split dash too ? - what a surprise !
Are there many Vivas left down there now ?
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Post by gordo on May 3, 2009 15:15:20 GMT 12
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